But what if you want the service to initiate the conversation? Consider these examples:
- An Instant Messaging / Chat application. When a user types a message into your Silverlight app, you use WCF to make, for example, a SendChatMessage() call. But what about receiving messages that others type back? Sure, you could call something like ReceiveChatMessage() continuously in a loop, and it could return null if there are no messages waiting. But this is a lot of work, not to mention the severe implications this would have for the performance of your app. Wouldn't it be nice if it "just worked"?
- A Monitoring application. A lot of people are writing applications that monitor something that can be changed at any time on the server. Maybe it's a stock ticker / charting app, or maybe it's monitoring some physical sensor... Again, you could continuously poll the server to see if anything changed, but this is inefficient.
To solve problems like this, we are trying to ship a "duplex" feature in Silverlight 2 Beta2. (There is a very good chance that the feature will make it in, but of course no guarantees, and anything I say about the design is subject to change by the time we ship). I'll first give you a quick overview and then the details:
Quick Overview
Let's say you want to build a chat application. You'll start by defining a chat message such as the following:
[DataContract]
public class ChatMessage {
[DataMember] public string messageText;
[DataMember] public int textColor;
[DataMember] public bool isSmileyFace;
}
You would then create a "duplex service" on the server-side the way you would normally create a duplex service in WCF (more info below). The last step would be to configure the WCF service with a special "Silverlight duplex binding" by making an appropriate modification to Web.config.
In Silverlight, you will not be able to do an "Add Service Reference" to this service. Instead, you will manually copy the ChatMessage class to your Silverlight project. Then, after adding a new Extension assembly to your Silverlight project as well as some sample code we'll provide, you'll be able to do something like this:
var r = new DuplexReceiver<ChatMessage>("http://example.com/myService.svc");
r.OnMessageReceived += new OnMessageReceivedEventHandler<ChatMessage>(r_OnMessageReceived);
And that's all! Whenever the server chooses to send a message, you will need to handle this event by providing the following callback method:
static void r_OnMessageReceived(object sender, OnMessageReceivedEventArgs<ChatMessage> e)
{
//Handle a chat message received from the server
//E.g.:
chatBox.Text = chatBox.Text + e.Result.messageText;
//...
}
Details
For those of you familiar with WCF: What we're actually aiming to ship in Beta2 are two things:
- A new binding for WCF on the server side
- The client-side equivalent of this binding for WCF-in-Silverlight
What is not included in the plan (for Silverlight 2, not just for Beta2), is any Service Model support (like callback contracts and the like), meaning no "Add Service Reference" support.
Normally, this would mean that you need to be a WCF guru to use this (create a channel manually, receive a WCF Message, deserialize). Fortunately, we are hoping to ship sample code for DuplexReceiver < T > , that will make simple scenarios really easy (like you saw above).
For an overview of building the server side of duplex services with WCF, a good starting point is http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms731064.aspx and http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms731184.aspx- but here too, we may provide some sample server-side code to make this easier.
"Under the hood", the duplex mechanism works by polling the server using HTTP requests. However, this is "smart polling": the polling request to the server will not immediately return if there are no messages, but will linger around and return only when a message actually becomes available. There is a lot more to this but I can't talk about it yet (except for referring to Clarke's Third Law :)
This post is mostly to get the basic information out there - there are a lot more details to cover, which I may do in future posts.
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Sounds good. A couple of questions...
Could I implement the same thing now by calling a web service and sleeping on the server until there is data? Is the server going to run out of threads with all of these open requests?
Wow... this is exactly what a lot of people were waiting for. Can't wait for beta2!
This is great news.. I for one am happy with this solution (thou I have questions regarding actual implementation which I know your still ironing out so I wont ask them )
With this news for WCF based duplex calls one needs to re-evaluate the need for tcpip/sockets based solutions. Alot of the scenarios people would want to build using sockets will be answered with the new duplex WCF. hmmmm food for thought !
Interesting.. We've recently built a comms system using the same technique (ajax comet?) to use with a .net based server end (using HttpListener/http.sys so no IIS) and using XBAP as the client. The point being to work full duplex through proxies/firewalls where http port 80 could be all that's allowed. We were very curious about having a Silverlight based client but weren't sure if we could do 2 http requests through different sockets like we can with the full .net framework (one for the slow polling server->client channel and one for the periodic client->server messages). This would indicate that perhaps we will be able to do that?
Very well done. While I understand that full "OperationContext" might not make it... It's still important to then make sure that the server can "know" who the caller is, as well as recieve an event (on the server) upon the client's disconnecting.
Again, well done.
Regarding Bill's comment above... the client would timeout if it waited too long (unless you configured around it).
About the threading part... if the connection is open, you have a thread open anyway. So the answer there would likely be no different than if this was just a web application and you had a lot of people hitting it with their browser.
Thanks a lot Eugene ^_^
I am still not very sure if it really satisfies our needs, but it looks to be a very good solution to many applications.
I will be waiting for the beta 2 and give it a try.
Cheers
This is very exciting. I implemented a callback service for my website that I'm building and when I went to actually implement the client I found that none of the preferred classes existed.
Not to rush, any idea on what the planned release date is for Silverlight 2 Beta 2?
So, now that b2 is minutes away from release (hopefully!), can you tell us if all this awesome duplex stuff made it in? I sure hope I don't have to wait for the RTM.
I went through the sample walkthrough provided in SL2B2 SDK documentation. But the code doesn't exactly work according to the documentation.
I posted about it here (which also includes a link to download the sample code that I put together from the walkthrough).
I'm wondering whether you can use this functionality if you are not using WCF services?
I ask because I've been looking hard at REST recently and even with the new Advanced Web model I'm not convinced that WCF is necessarily the right grounding for REST. However being able to push data to the client would undoubtedly be useful in a lot of situations.
REST is just a model for posting to web services through the URL. WCF does support REST indeed.
As for callbacks, there are very few places where this functionality even exists, that's pretty much why it's quite amazing that we have the availability in WCF. :D
I can see WCF callbacks being useful in a variety of 'live' applications. Many websites use polling to a degree to replace the necessity for having to refresh the page when new content arrives. GMail has this kind of 'live' effect whenever new e-mails come in.
@Thomas
I wasn't really asking what REST was, though to be honest I think it's a bit bigger than just being about posting to URLs.
Really I'm interested in whether this two way communication will only be supported if you use WCF, or whether you will be able to hook into it if you choose not to use WCF. My hope is its the latter...
Are there any guidelines on server tuning for optimum scalability? I expect to have a few thousand clients connected at any given time and wondering what to expect and how to best configure my server.
Does anyone know if there's theoretical limits on the number of concurrent client connections the server can handle?
When will this easy method of using duplex contracts be available in Silverlight?
I second this question:
" @Thomas
I wasn't really asking what REST was, though to be honest I think it's a bit bigger than just being about posting to URLs.
Really I'm interested in whether this two way communication will only be supported if you use WCF, or whether you will be able to hook into it if you choose not to use WCF. My hope is its the latter..."
"Smart Polling: the polling request to the server will not immediately return if there are no messages, but will linger around and return only when a message actually becomes available", but the request still ties up a thread on the server side, is that right? Assume you have thousands or more users doing that, the server will be brought to its knees.
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